Well, we are working on Visual Programming Language (VPL) and it's like taking a giant step backwards to old-time BASIC. Most of the group don't know the advantages of structured languages, so they like dragging the boxes onto the board and connecting them, but to those of us who have actually done real programming before, this is tedious and downright UGLY!! Maybe it is just a way to introduce the way we do things, but I doubt it.